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YouTube is Dying

#1 User is offline   code1 

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 04:20 AM

YouTube is now blocking all videos that contains music owned by WMG (Warner Music Group). WMG is one of the largest record labels in the world which means that a huge amount of videos will be blocked in the near future. One of my videos (drum covers) has already been blocked and its just a matter of time before all of them will be gone.
A lot of people are using YouTube for listening to their favourite bands, finding new and interesting music or to watch covers of their favourite songs to learn how to play them. If YouTube will take these videos down, then they will die a slow but certain death.

This is from an article I found on the internet:

"If you missed the headlines, Warner Music Group (WMG), the first of the Big 4 record labels to partner with YouTube has pulled off the site. Accounts and press releases differ over culpability – whether YouTube bailed or Warner Music punted – but the material fact is the same. From Bad Company to the B-52’s, James Blunt to Jane’s Addiction, the videos are down. The reason is simple: money.

For several months, the two companies have been trying to renegotiate their expired license agreement. Under the prior terms, it's reported that Warner received either a fraction of a cent per video play or a share of any ad revenue generated alongside their content, whichever was greater.

Neither, it turns out, was great enough. According to the New York Times, in 2008 less than one percent of Warner’s $639m in digital revenues came from YouTube; that despite the fact that music videos are among the most watched content on the site.

According to Ad Age “Forty-seven of the top 100 most-watched creators on YouTube are musicians or labels.”

In a blog post, Google (GOOG) announced the split saying that “despite our constant efforts, it isn’t always possible to maintain these innovative agreements. Sometimes, if we can’t reach acceptable business terms, we must part ways with successful partners.”

WMG countered that they are still looking for a solution but “until [one is found] we simply cannot accept terms that fail to appropriately and fairly compensate our artists, songwriters, labels and publishers for the value they provide.”

To some extent, the dispute is a case study in the challenges facing the young online video marketplace.

On one side, there is YouTube. Explosive in audience growth, the site has become the fourth largest website and the second largest search engine in the world. In November, according to Nielsen, they served 5.56 billion video clips out of about 9.5 billion watched in the U.S. That’s equal to nearly sixty percent of the U.S. market.

On the other side lie the content owners. It is on their backs, that YouTube has grown. These licensors know a distribution platform is no good without desirable content. They want to be recognized and compensated for the contribution.
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You can read the full article here

There are a lot more articles about this, just google it and you will find some interesting stuff to read.

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 08:41 AM

Ah yes, this is probaly the fall of Youtube. Hmm, and then we find some other site that works better and then they do the same thing and so its goes.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:03 AM

playlist.com lol. listen to all the music u want 4 free. legally.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:54 AM

View Postnamawon, on Jan 19 2009, 11:03 AM, said:

playlist.com lol. listen to all the music u want 4 free. legally.

I use that. I don't know how legal it is, but it's pretty big, and "the fuzz" hasn't done anything with it I think it's OK. The next best thing after Youtube for music vids is probably Metacafe. I suggest checking it out. :lol:
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:57 AM

Unless and until the music labels change their mind, anything that's nearly as useful as YouTube will quickly end up with the same problems and policing actions. YouTube won't die. It just won't get used as much for the kinds of videos we (and most others) watch.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 10:11 AM

View PostPoco Askew, on Jan 19 2009, 11:57 AM, said:

YouTube won't die.

That's what I was thinking. Music is only a small percentage of YT's videos.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 01:58 PM

Too bad, but not surprising. :D
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 02:10 PM

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 03:07 PM

I will miss it if it does go away, I use it all the time.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 04:13 PM

View PostBlinddrummer, on Jan 19 2009, 07:11 PM, said:

That's what I was thinking. Music is only a small percentage of YT's videos.


No, it will not die, of course. I just wrote that to catch everybodys attention, just like newspapers are doing. It may be true that music is a small percentage of all yotube videos, but still, music is the most watched of all genres on youtube. Read the article, Among the 100 most watched videos 43 were music videos. Thats not a negligable percentage. I still think that 30-40% of all watched videos on YouTube are music videos.

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 05:31 PM

youtube will die due to the fact that the copyright crap really ticks people off. personally, i rarely use youtube now.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 06:01 PM

u want music try www.purevolume.com great site for bands trying to get ther sound out there too ;)
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 07:59 PM

Fox Broadcasting and their subsidiaries have been blocking you tube content for almost a year now. It will come down to a lawsuit and then there will be a subscription service of some kind and the problem will be solved. Ie. Napster loses to Itunes, what was once free will cost money, and people will pay up the cash.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 08:13 PM

so far, all my vids are still up (knock on wood)
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 04:54 PM

warner brothers pisses me off. they are pretty much the largest music label, and they are such !#$%^& about it.

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 05:06 PM

What? WGM, Get a freaking life and leave us youtube users alones friggin alone. Remember WGM Bastards, We, the consumers are your blood line. Without us, you guys wouldn't exist in the first place due to bankcruptcy..

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 05:44 PM

u want music try www.purevolume.com lol i know i allready siad this but its great u can download the tracks for free if u like them great networking site
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