[Poco Askew]

 Drumlugs, on Nov 26 2009, 08:43 AM, said:

My heads are tuned the same way the batter just over the wrinkle point by a 1/4 turn and the reso about 1 full turn over the wrinkle. Does that sound right to you.

Yes. That does sound about the same as mine. I think my reso may not quite that much tighter, but honestly, I don't remember. I'm at a disadvantage as my kick now sits facing very close to a wall. I don't have enough room to pull it back. As such, I go more for pitch tuning only. With the heads I use and my room placement, there is no hollow sound or overtones to deal with. g/l

[Drumlugs]

 Poco Askew, on Nov 26 2009, 12:58 PM, said:

Yes. That does sound about the same as mine. I think my reso may not quite that much tighter, but honestly, I don't remember. I'm at a disadvantage as my kick now sits facing very close to a wall. I don't have enough room to pull it back. As such, I go more for pitch tuning only. With the heads I use and my room placement, there is no hollow sound or overtones to deal with. g/l

Ok Poco. I guess the size of the room has alot to do with the tuning too. The room my kit's in is 10X12 and the drum is against the back wall so I have about 8 feet to the other wall for resonance. So it is hard to say what the difference between my kit and yours would be because of the distance to the wall. It gives me a general idea of the tuning. Anyway thanks for the reply.

[Poco Askew]

 Drumlugs, on Nov 28 2009, 12:39 PM, said:

Ok Poco. I guess the size of the room has alot to do with the tuning too. The room my kit's in is 10X12 and the drum is against the back wall so I have about 8 feet to the other wall for resonance. So it is hard to say what the difference between my kit and yours would be because of the distance to the wall. It gives me a general idea of the tuning. Anyway thanks for the reply.

Funny - our rooms are about the same, but I have mine facing the walls so I can play both with one throne in the center between them.

[Drumlugs]

 Jared Falk, on Nov 26 2009, 11:01 AM, said:

If all videos and dvds demonstrate "how to tune a bass drum" with a hole in it, then maybe you should cut a hole in it. That is one of the things that drummers are doing to improve their bass drum sound, and make it easier to tune.

If you are set on tuning your bass drum without a hole in it, then the same techniques are applied if you had a hole in it. You will just have to take the head off all the time to adjust the muffling, or when you have to re-tune from gig to gig.

I always cut a hole in my drum and put Bass Drum O's in there. Just do a Google search for Bass Drum O's and you'll see what I mean

Jared what I am getting at is that not everyone has a mic hole in their bass reso head. That is fine for recording or whatever. Most drum heads come without holes unless specified. I bought the drum tuning system and to me it should include both tuning with hole and no hole as this is part of tuning. If I wanted a hole in it I would get one and I did have one on my old head which was easy to muffle with the hole opening in it but I did not like that open sound. Anyway this is just something for you to think about in your future dvd's on this subject. Meanwhile I will have to live with this and try to tune it the best I can Thanks.

[Jared Falk]

 Drumlugs, on Nov 30 2009, 07:26 AM, said:

Jared what I am getting at is that not everyone has a mic hole in their bass reso head. That is fine for recording or whatever. Most drum heads come without holes unless specified. I bought the drum tuning system and to me it should include both tuning with hole and no hole as this is part of tuning. If I wanted a hole in it I would get one and I did have one on my old head which was easy to muffle with the hole opening in it but I did not like that open sound. Anyway this is just something for you to think about in your future dvd's on this subject. Meanwhile I will have to live with this and try to tune it the best I can Thanks.

But what I said in my previous post is that the same tuning principles are applied to tuning with or without a hole. I personally don't like the sound or feel of the drum when it doesn't have a hole in it. The slapback on the beater is horrible and affects my bass drum technique, especially in the studio. I end up getting extra strokes as the beater is bouncing like crazy.

I understand what you're asking for, but I don't think there is anything I can recommend to do differently when tuning the drums with or without a hole. When it comes to muffling the drum, it depends on the drum, type of drumheads etc...So you have to do that by ear as well.

[Drumlugs]

 Poco Askew, on Nov 28 2009, 02:50 PM, said:

Funny - our rooms are about the same, but I have mine facing the walls so I can play both with one throne in the center between them.

Do you have 2 kits in your room. Cause you mention something about playing both with on throne. If this is the case then my room is much bigger as I only have my kit in there nothing else so I am probably getting lots of rebound off the walls. That would explain why our kits are tuned a little different.

[Drumlugs]

 Jared Falk, on Nov 30 2009, 01:58 PM, said:

But what I said in my previous post is that the same tuning principles are applied to tuning with or without a hole. I personally don't like the sound or feel of the drum when it doesn't have a hole in it. The slapback on the beater is horrible and affects my bass drum technique, especially in the studio. I end up getting extra strokes as the beater is bouncing like crazy.

I understand what you're asking for, but I don't think there is anything I can recommend to do differently when tuning the drums with or without a hole. When it comes to muffling the drum, it depends on the drum, type of drumheads etc...So you have to do that by ear as well.

Ok Jared I get you now. You play more studio and live with mics and I don't so I can see why you have the mic hole. Anyway thanks for trying to explain this to me as I can be a pain in the you know what sometimes. Now I get it thanks I will tune by ear or get a hole put in.

[Poco Askew]

 Drumlugs, on Dec 1 2009, 05:26 AM, said:

Do you have 2 kits in your room. Cause you mention something about playing both with on throne. If this is the case then my room is much bigger as I only have my kit in there nothing else so I am probably getting lots of rebound off the walls. That would explain why our kits are tuned a little different.

Yes. I have the Mapex kit and an E-kit in the room, along with several large speakers, amps, and other related junk. Also the room has a queen-sized bed and thick carpet so theres very little extra space which makes for a dead sounding room.

[Drumlugs]

 Poco Askew, on Dec 1 2009, 07:41 AM, said:

Yes. I have the Mapex kit and an E-kit in the room, along with several large speakers, amps, and other related junk. Also the room has a queen-sized bed and thick carpet so theres very little extra space which makes for a dead sounding room.

Wow that is crowded and I thought my room was small and I only have my Masters kit in there no amps etc. Maybe I should start filling her up with something might make my kit sound better.

[Dealas]

Drums sound completely different in different rooms. I tune differently depending on where I am. I still keep the same tuning principles, and look for a similar sound, but if it sounds good in my practice room it won't (necessarily) sound good on a theater stage. You have to tweak it according to your surroundings.

[Jared Falk]

 Drumlugs, on Dec 1 2009, 05:29 AM, said:

Ok Jared I get you now. You play more studio and live with mics and I don't so I can see why you have the mic hole. Anyway thanks for trying to explain this to me as I can be a pain in the you know what sometimes. Now I get it thanks I will tune by ear or get a hole put in.

You're not a pain in the 'a' - Don't worry about it

[nwilliams]

Mike Michalkow has the complete drum tuning system which teaches you how to tune. It also gives instructions about how to maintain the entire drum set with the best sound. It also includes about tuning your drums as well as caring for your drums and many more.

[jacks2028]

I would agree with this and tune blues as though you were playing rock. I would recommend doing a hybrid tuning between jazz and rock. Hope that makes sense. My heads are tuned the same way the batter just over the wrinkle point by the reso about 1 full turn over the wrinkle.

[gslouka]

I have recently purchased the Drum Tuning System DVD. However, the problem I continue to have is the snare resonates every time I hit the high, middle and low tom. It does not though when hitting the floor tom. What am I doing wrong or does anyone have any additional tips?

[Poco Askew]

 gslouka, on Jan 26 2011, 09:00 PM, said:

I have recently purchased the Drum Tuning System DVD. However, the problem I continue to have is the snare resonates every time I hit the high, middle and low tom. It does not though when hitting the floor tom. What am I doing wrong or does anyone have any additional tips?

If you like the sound of your snare and toms, I'd leave it and learn to love it. It's just what snares do - especially if you play with other people. Guitars and keyboards will set it off - guaranteed.

Here is a link to a tuning method that reduces buzz for some people. If you don't love your current tuning you can raise or lower the pitch of your snare or toms slightly to minimize the buzz. You can also add a little dampening to your snare. No matter what you do it will still sometimes happen.

[drumrookie]

I recently purchased the Drumming System, which includes some tuning lessons. I haven't checked that DVD out yet, but wonder if anyone here knows the difference between DTS and tuning lessons in DS? Do they complement each other or makes sense to have only one or the other? Thanks.

This post has been edited by drumrookie: 09 August 2011 - 10:17 AM

[Kavir]

 drumrookie, on 09 August 2011 - 10:16 AM, said:

I recently purchased the Drumming System, which includes some tuning lessons. I haven't checked that DVD out yet, but wonder if anyone here knows the difference between DTS and tuning lessons in DS? Do they complement each other or makes sense to have only one or the other? Thanks.

I have both and I'm constantly making reference to the Tuning system DVD. It was well worth it to get when I got the DS as it goes pretty in depth about drum tuning and for different styles

[pearlvx96]

I think I need this

This post has been edited by pearlvx96: 10 August 2011 - 04:39 PM

[drumrookie]

 Kavir, on 09 August 2011 - 05:20 PM, said:

I have both and I'm constantly making reference to the Tuning system DVD. It was well worth it to get when I got the DS as it goes pretty in depth about drum tuning and for different styles

Thanks Kavir, for the feedback.

[ThePuppetMaster]

I looking to get The Drum Tuning System, but I just want to know if you guys are a avadible to ship to Ireland?