[Scorpian3]

The wait is over.
Moeller system and Drum playalong arrived this morning. Just started learning the first playalong, I like the song. could take me a while, it's pretty fast.
Really going to enjoy these playalongs.
Even at a slow pace it sounds like I'm playing a song, at last.

[Scorpian3]

I am learning Drum Playalong 1 Sonus - ' 10 seconds' and need some help with the chorus (cymbals)
I'm reading it as Ride - Hi Hat - Ride bell - hi hat ( repeat)
When I watch the DVD looks like he hits the crash in some places. Does he add fills that are not in the music, getting confused.
Ok with intro, verses, solo etc ( although very slow).

Oops I've just realised this thread is from the free playalongs not the drum playalongs, where should I post this?
I can't do the free ones as I don't have a computor near the kit, only the tv / DVD.

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This post has been edited by Poco Askew: 09 June 2009 - 05:03 AM

[Scorpian3]

Thanks for moving it poco. Don't think the brain was in gear this morning.

[tamajama]

I wanted to commend the great effort in putting a play along system like this together. It is very good music and excellent demonstrations on playing the songs.

There are only two complaints I have:

1. No sheet music like I thought there was going to be. There are parts of the songs shown in the workbook but it's not the whole song. Having the songs completely notated in sheet music would have made everything immediately playable for me but now I have to do a little charting and transcribing before working on a song.

2. The Audio CD with Jason Kliewer and Sam Heard did not have any tags on the tracks, which means ripping the audio to mp3 format shows only Unknown Album, Unknown Artist, Unknown title, etc... The other audio CD's had the tag information and ripped just fine. This is a minor inconvenience but a problem none the less.

[albenv]

Jared Falk, on Dec 19 2008, 04:59 AM, said:

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Hi Jared from Italy
I appreciated very much your play along system
Hastings are my favourite band of the package .
Is any chance to get the complete transcription of the jason kliewert parts , fills included ?
It would add a lot of help in trying to replicate the songs
Many thanks and congratulations

[Janado]

Hey Albenv, what song are you working on right now? I can help you with the transcription of the songs. Just tell which one and I will transcribe it for you.

Also, which other songs from Hasting do you have on the drum play-along system? This way, after I'm done with the first one I can start working on the others for you.

cheers

albenv, on Jan 24 2010, 12:29 AM, said:

Hi Jared from Italy
I appreciated very much your play along system
Hastings are my favourite band of the package .
Is any chance to get the complete transcription of the jason kliewert parts , fills included ?
It would add a lot of help in trying to replicate the songs
Many thanks and congratulations

This post has been edited by Janado: 31 January 2010 - 11:44 AM

[Iyce]

Hello RRM team,

Here's my review of the product so far (after having watched all of it, and played to some):

PROS:
I really liked the varied styles of music and their differing tempos. Certain songs do require a lot of stamina to play, others are technical and some are at a more "beginner/intermediate" level. This variation helped develop what I've been learning when it's applied to a song (I don't always use the grooves in the coil book--sometimes I'll add my own).

The Gear Talk section was very interesting. While not directly applicable to "playing along", it does provide some good insight into finding various sounds or, even further, seeing why a drummer uses certain sounds in specific places. Plus, it isn't often one gets an in-depth look at the kit of a performer.

Most songs were followed by some extra information about what the drummer did in or was thinking for the song. I especially liked Sam's thinking behind how he handles fills. Schroeder's neat stick trick and explanation of how to change a double-bass beat to a single-bass were also very informative and provided new ways of thinking constructively and creatively.

As always, the coiled notebook is a HUGE help as it allows for keeping pages open on a music stand much easier. The book could be improved, however, and I will touch on that below.

Different angles for each song are always great. Seeing a drummer from the kit's front can only be so educative and often results in trying to "play by ear" when deconstructing grooves and fills. Being able to see everything allows for quick examination of exactly what a drummer is doing with every limb!

The DVD menus were very easy to get around. I find that I can quickly access whatever style I want to see (performance, multi-angle, or any other feature). With a brief preview of one song from each artist, alternating from left artist to right, it allowed me to easily get in the mood and feel of the DVD.

CONS:
One of the biggest issues I had with this product over many others for play-along packs was this: the entire song was not notated. While the book does explain that the user is meant to construct their own fills and feel for the song, this is only explained in the product book and not before hand. When I purchase sheet music for a song, I generally look for the entire song as recorded; I want to know how many times I repeat each measure, where the fills are, what the fills are, and anything else that might be missing. I feel the lack of this should be clearly displayed, or at least the actual intentional line from the product stated on its site.

Going hand-in-hand with the first point, and the coiled notebook improvement comment above, the format of each song as a page-by-page basis did not flow easily. Most songs are notated across two sheets. However, the sheets are one front (right sheet usually STARTS the song) and one back (on the rear of the starting page). This made following along to the song as a whole difficult, as, until I learned it entirely by memory, I had to flip the book part-way through the song. I would suggest that the start of the song always be on the left (rear) page, and the next part be on the right. That way, minimal flipping is required, and it will flow a lot more smoothly.

I am not sure if it is my software or not, but I have two issues with the DVDs and Play Along CDs. One, I found the DVD menu volume to be louder than the actual DVD content itself, especially while the performers were discussing various aspects. This meant me having to normalize the volume or re-adjust it after picking my selection and when that selection ends. Secondly, one of the CDs did not have ID3 information. This made ripping it a bit more time-consuming than I like (although, since the artists and song names are in the play along notebook, they are easily added later).

A minor point but just personal preference for the last notch against the play along system is the double-bass coverage. While used in only some songs, there is no alternative if you do not have a double-bass pedal or even a "requires a double-bass pedal to play" message. Schroeder does do a good job on giving an idea how to handle this, but I would recommend providing potential alternatives. This would not only "clean up" the product but also put it a step above the others (and yes, I realize that the single-bass grooves would not match the original score, but something that provides the same feel would no doubt be appreciated).

Overall, a great product to have. It provides exposure to various genres with great insight as to how to approach the songs and their structures. Also, play along songs are great whenever one can get them!

-Ozzy

P.S. - On a side note, while thinking about the various genres, it would likely be a good idea to provide a short intro as to what defines each type of genre for drums. Many drummers that I know, especially beginners, do not understand the difference between, say, classic rock and folk rock.

[Dealas]

Iyce, on Mar 3 2010, 06:04 AM, said:

Going hand-in-hand with the first point, and the coiled notebook improvement comment above, the format of each song as a page-by-page basis did not flow easily. Most songs are notated across two sheets. However, the sheets are one front (right sheet usually STARTS the song) and one back (on the rear of the starting page). This made following along to the song as a whole difficult, as, until I learned it entirely by memory, I had to flip the book part-way through the song. I would suggest that the start of the song always be on the left (rear) page, and the next part be on the right. That way, minimal flipping is required, and it will flow a lot more smoothly.

That's actually a really good point. +1

[Gilligan]

Hi guys,

I want to start off by telling you that I really enjoyed watching these DVD's. The quality is excellent, the songs were pretty good, and it was really nice to see the difference in playing styles of the different drummers presented.

However, I would have appreciated more detailed (read complete) song transcriptions, including each song's tempo (BPM). Being a novice drummer, I still need all the guidance I can get, meaning I'll learn a song the way it was originally played, and then slowly experiment with different fills and such. I am not at a level where I can do it the other way around.

Also, it has been mentionned previously, but for us readers with bad memories, flipping pages in the middle of a song is annoying.

I'll probably put DVD's away for a while until I feel my ability gets up to par with the level of this package. Maybe it'll serve as extra motivation to practice harder

My feeling is that the PAS is a great package even if it has a few flaws, but is not suited for beginners.

[D cubed]

Just have a quick question, are there any jazz play alongs that arent on the JDS on here

[Matt Shank]

D cubed, on Aug 5 2010, 01:15 AM, said:

Just have a quick question, are there any jazz play alongs that arent on the JDS on here

The only Jazz play-alongs in the lessons section are these:

Jazz Play-Along 1
Jazz Play-Along 2

[D cubed]

vicfirth1985, on Aug 5 2010, 01:56 AM, said:

The only Jazz play-alongs in the lessons section are these:

Jazz Play-Along 1
Jazz Play-Along 2

I meant in the system, are they the only ones in the system?

[Matt Shank]

D cubed, on Aug 5 2010, 10:25 AM, said:

I meant in the system, are they the only ones in the system?

The two I listed are here on this site. Click on the "Drum Lessons" tab and scroll down to "Drum Play-Alongs".

The Jazz system has 10 play-along tracks. You can get additional play-alongs with the Play-Along System.

[osirus211]

tamajama, on 29 December 2009 - 07:23 AM, said:

No sheet music like I thought there was going to be. There are parts of the songs shown in the workbook but it's not the whole song. Having the songs completely notated in sheet music would have made everything immediately playable for me but now I have to do a little charting and transcribing before working on a song.

This.

[osirus211]

"Detailed sheet music for all 51 play-along songs! This way you can see the exact beats and fills that the original drummers use to play all the various songs from the DVDs and CDs!"

This is false. Revised version:

Detailed sheet music for sections of 51 play-along songs! This way you can see parts of the beats and fills that the original drummers use to play all the various songs from the DVDs and CDs!

[ajay]

Hi Jared,
Although I have ordered play along system, Please tell me how is it different from the play along DVDs in Drumming system and rock drumming system (I already have both of them)