[Poco Askew]

@ Zulu
The different exercises in RDS are not all at the same tempo if memory serves. I think I remember the slow tempo is 80 BPM and the faster is 120 BPM (quarter notes) for most of them - but not all. Since you have a built-in metronome on your E-kit it is easy to start and stop it with the beat of any given exercise. By adjusting the tempo on the click you can "home in" on the correct value very quickly - especially with a little practice. This is a good skill to have anyway. When I practice rudiments I use my E-kit. Practice pads are fine but using the actual kit you sit in front of is even better, IMO, as long as you have the discipline not to start screwing around on it. A pad is great when you're watching TV or traveling. Counting is taught slightly differently by different teachers. There is no absolute correct way. Whatever works for you is the right way (for you). I always count quarter notes but only count the other notes that are actually played. Once you start counting 16ths at 140 BPM+ your tongue can use any rest it can get. Also I like the fact that my mouth and hands have to react at the same time. But if you want to count everything, go for it!

[basschick]

since i've always found jared and his teaching to be pleasant and accessible, i decided to pick up the rock drumming system. even though i've done part of the beginner lessons from FDL a while back, i decided to start at the very beginning and work forward. it never hurts to have a refresher, especially since i had stopped reading notation and hadn't played for a while, so i was pretty rusty.

so far, the books and dvd's are clear and easy to use, well made and well packaged. i'm working my way through the starter stuff quickly but will soon get to stuff in the beginner book i haven't done as lessons yet. can't wait! i expect i'll get the drumming system for more in depth and non-rock stuff, but while working off the cobwebs from a long break, this is just right for me, and seems like it would be awesome lessons for a beginner.

[osirus211]

In beat 2 of the advanced section, can you explain what's happening on the final three notes (4-e-and-ah). I assume that's supposed to be counted 4-e-and-rest. Why is there a double bar all the way across? Why is that different than the 1-e-and-rest in the same beat? Thanks a lot.

Jason

[Poco Askew]

osirus211, on 17 June 2011 - 09:00 AM, said:

In beat 2 of the advanced section, can you explain what's happening on the final three notes (4-e-and-ah). I assume that's supposed to be counted 4-e-and-rest. Why is there a double bar all the way across? Why is that different than the 1-e-and-rest in the same beat? Thanks a lot.

Are you talking about the broken hi hat beats? If so, I assume there is a typo and there should be an additional 16th (snare) note at the end.

[drumpiet]

hello Jared, my name is Pieter and i am from the netherlands(holland).recently i bought the rock drumming system and i think it is great but i have some questions.

at what speed is the metronoom set when you are playing slow and what speed when faster?

the snr system i don t understand it completely, is the upper bar the same as the lower bar in number 1??

thank you for ansering and i hope to hear from you greats Pieter

[Poco Askew]

drumpiet, on 28 September 2011 - 12:22 PM, said:

at what speed is the metronoom set when you are playing slow and what speed when faster?

There is no set tempo to practice these exercises. If I remember correctly, most of the exercises are at 80 and 120 BPM, but a few are different.

drumpiet, on 28 September 2011 - 12:22 PM, said:

the snr system i don t understand it completely, is the upper bar the same as the lower bar in number 1??

Yes.
The SNR example sounds and is played the same as the regular example next to it.

BTW, I'm not Jared.

This post has been edited by Poco Askew: 28 September 2011 - 12:35 PM

[drumpiet]

Poco Askew, on 28 September 2011 - 12:35 PM, said:

There is no set tempo to practice these exercises. If I remember correctly, most of the exercises are at 80 and 120 BPM, but a few are different.


Yes.
The SNR example sounds and is played the same as the regular example next to it.

BTW, I'm not Jared.

hello Poco, thanks for the answer i think i understand it now.

[Chris Tee]

Does anyone know if the DVD's have the workbooks on them, too, so they can be printed?
Just in case the workbooks get lost?

[Poco Askew]

Chris Tee, on 03 November 2011 - 05:40 PM, said:

Does anyone know if the DVD's have the workbooks on them, too, so they can be printed?
Just in case the workbooks get lost?

I'll say no. I have an early set of RDS and the workbooks are not on the DVDs. That could have changed I suppose.

[Chris Tee]

Poco Askew, on 03 November 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:

I'll say no. I have an early set of RDS and the workbooks are not on the DVDs. That could have changed I suppose.

Thanks for your reply.
Dang. That's a bummer. I bought my RDS from a guy who said his never even came with the printed workbooks.
I guess I'm kinda screwed then.

[Tamatrainee]

Chris Tee, on 03 November 2011 - 09:39 PM, said:

Thanks for your reply.
Dang. That's a bummer. I bought my RDS from a guy who said his never even came with the printed workbooks.
I guess I'm kinda screwed then.

The notation for each exercise appears with the video demonstration and you could write it down but this would be quite tedious and take a good deal of effort.
I'm sure that RRM would supply a set of books (for an appropriate fee).

[Chris Tee]

Tamatrainee, on 04 November 2011 - 02:12 AM, said:

The notation for each exercise appears with the video demonstration and you could write it down but this would be quite tedious and take a good deal of effort.
I'm sure that RRM would supply a set of books (for an appropriate fee).

That's true. I could write it down. Good suggestion about contacting RRM to see if they sell the books separately. Thanks!

This post has been edited by Chris Tee: 04 November 2011 - 09:51 AM

[Jared Falk]

Email me, I'll hook you up Chris

jaredf (at) railroadmedia (dot) com

[Chris Tee]

Jared Falk, on 04 November 2011 - 09:25 PM, said:

Email me, I'll hook you up Chris

jaredf (at) railroadmedia (dot) com

Email sent! :-)

[Chris Tee]

Ok. So I just finished watching every lesson of this DVD package and I ABSOLUTELY LOOOOVE this system! I feel it's really comprehensive. It addresses EVERYTHING that I've been interested in learning about Rock Drumming and then some!

Initially, there was one section I wasn't interested in: Lead Hand Experimentation. I thought to myself, "When am I ever going to need this technique?" Then, funny thing happened. I had to learn a song where in order to accomplish the beat I needed to play, I had to use this technique! Though, instead of going from Ride to Hi-Hat, I had to go from Crash to Snare. So, needless, to say, I have a newfound appreciation for that section and won't be skipping any of those exercises during my practice time

Also, I've been w/o my drumset for two weeks, so I decided to first tackle the Beginner Single and Double Stroke Roll Exercises on my practice pad. OMG! I have never practiced rudiments like this! I have two other RRM Drumming Systems and I think the RDS covers this in a way that is new and fresh for me. I mean, I can already see the value and potential of playing several bars using one rudiment, while varying the note values w/in those bars. I had never practiced like this before. But, after doing these exercises, I played with my band on the weekend and I felt so much more comfortable and confident with my sticking. My fills were better and I felt my ear had developed a little more too... I knew I could improvise a fill, using different note values, and be confident that I would end the fill where I needed to (at the end of the measure) w/o having to think about it. It just came a lot more naturally cuz my hands were used to practicing that way, and my ear was used to hearing it

Anyhow, I'll be back on my drumset tomorrow and I'm soooo excited to work my way through this system. I've enjoyed the other two systems I have, but I've always wanted to focus on Rock, get good at that, then move on to other genres. So, I love how this package is genre-specific. It has everything that I've ever wanted to learn really.

Thanks Jared and Team. I love your products.

This post has been edited by Chris Tee: 03 December 2011 - 03:18 AM

[samiam]

Thanks for the review, this is one I'm looking at getting