[Tibbz]

Thanks for the replies. I don't mind the space, as long as it fits and I can play im fine

[FourPieceMetal]

When it comes right down to it, no environment is perfectly safe for drums. . . I had my drums in a decently warm room, like 60 degrees was the coldest the drums would get, and the BD warped! (if it didn't while it was on layaway at the shop) So, if a shed or garage is all you have, go for it. Just disassemble them, and stick them in a warmer room for the winter, and everything should be fine. Really, all it does is mess around with your tuning. As long as the drums sound good after a good tuning, they should be fine in any shed, garage, heated room or whatever.

[Tibbz]

Ah it's ok now I think, can put them in a room above the garage!

However in the winter it gets chilly in there... Could move them in here though which is always warm due to my PC! (Keeps the room at a constant 25-30C when it's running )

[Tibbz]

Finally got my kit

[Poco Askew]

Tibbz, on 09 April 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

Finally got my kit

Gongrat's!!

[Tibbz]

Cheers

Needs tuning though (dont have a key atm) looks great though!

[einarabelc5]

Your kit didn't come with a key? That's weird. First thing I recommend is watching the live lesson here: moving around the kit.

[Tibbz]

einarabelc5, on 09 April 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

Your kit didn't come with a key? That's weird. First thing I recommend is watching the live lesson here: moving around the kit.

Nah it was second hand (well, used about 3 times!) and came with everything except the key

They're only about £5 anyway! Also I will be sure to check that video out!

[Tibbz]

Just wondering guys, do silencers affect actually playing the drums in any negative way?

[Poco Askew]

Tibbz, on 10 April 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:

Just wondering guys, do silencers affect actually playing the drums in any negative way?

Yes. They definitely change the feel (and sound) of the drums and cymbals.

[Tibbz]

Poco Askew, on 10 April 2012 - 08:17 AM, said:

Yes. They definitely change the feel (and sound) of the drums and cymbals.

That sucks, because I have to have them on from now
Can't play lightly/quietly because that isn't natural and doesn't help either...

[einarabelc5]

Bad idea to get an acoustic kit without being prepared for it. You might want to try the silencing sticks/mesh heads + drum module way.

Another one bites the drum dust.

There should be a sticky here for drum newbs that says. If you don't have a basement that seals sound DON'T get an acoustic kit.

[Tibbz]

einarabelc5, on 10 April 2012 - 11:19 AM, said:

Bad idea to get an acoustic kit without being prepared for it. You might want to try the silencing sticks/mesh heads + drum module way.

Another one bites the drum dust.

There should be a sticky here for drum newbs that says. If you don't have a basement that seals sound DON'T get an acoustic kit.

I had no other choice...

[Poco Askew]

It's not the end of the world. It's just, "Welcome to drumming."
Nearly every drummer faces the same situation you're in.
Don't worry about how drum mutes change playing the drums. There is a huge difference in feel from ride to hats to snare to floor tom. You have to learn to adapt your technique to be able to play on all of them. That's why I discount comments by drummers that say E-kits "don't feel the same." So what? No two acoustic kits feel exactly the same either. It's more of an excuse than a reason.

[Tibbz]

Yeah I guess...

I really wanted an acoustic kit because I like the sound of them, I don't want to be hitting rubber pads and have the sound made by a computer

However I think I will be able to play without pads quite often when the neighbors are out or something!

[Poco Askew]

Tibbz, on 11 April 2012 - 03:19 AM, said:

I really wanted an acoustic kit because I like the sound of them, I don't want to be hitting rubber pads and have the sound made by a computer

We each have our own criteria for what we prefer to play, but I would much rather play on an E-kit and be able to play anytime I want, 24/7.

The feel of an E-kit is better than any acoustic kit with mutes on, and that "computer" sound is much better as well. Also, not all E-kits use rubber pads. Some of them use sounds sampled from actual ultra-high-end acoustic kits. But even cheap sounds from entry-level kits don't bother me for practicing. It's like saying I can't make my Gibson Les Paul Custom sound exactly like my Gibson Monarch acoustic while I'm learning to play a basic blues chord progression. True. So what?

I'm not knocking your choice or preference. My first purchase was an E-kit, then I bought an acoustic kit. Now I find I spend 90% of my time on the E-kit. Not because of neighbors - I live more the 1/4 mile away from my nearest neighbor, and my wife doesn't care about the sound. It's more about convenience, flexibility, recording ease, sound quality, and not needing to wear hearing protection. But that's just me. Certainly acoustic kits offer greater dynamics and the truest feel, with all the benefits and limitations that brings along with them. The main thing is to enjoy yourself and get into a consistent practice schedule. An hour every day is better than 5 hours once or twice per week.

[einarabelc5]

Poco is right on what he says. Also notice he makes it very clear that he's talking from his perspective. I was on the same boat you are now. My own perspective says that even with ekits I still have to have an schedule to play. I went from the regular acustic, to the silencers and then to the ekit, to modding the ekit with mesh heads and I still have to have an schedule to play because neighbors STILL complain. Unless you live in a house people will hear you even if you have an ekit. At least you have a room, perhaps some sound isolation will also help.

As I said there's a thread in drum gear and accessories about a stick that lowers the sound level of your kit without using silencers. You might want to look into that.

About not being the end of the world. That depends on each particular situation. Poco is saying that because of his status, he basically lives in the country and is blessed with his wife not caring and has a comfortable big house. Try that situation in an apartment.
Every single drummer I've talked to from every part of the world has the same problem: noise complaints from neighbors. That doesn't mean there is not a workaround for it. Whatever you do make sure you build a consistent schedule.

This post has been edited by einarabelc5: 11 April 2012 - 12:35 PM

[maturenewdrummer]

Hi Tibbz i have both ekit and acoustic i have to play ekit due to neighbours but given a choice id deffo choose acoustic .Look to the future when time comes to audition for a band majority of groups prefer acoustic kit unless you audition for an 80s electro group like human league heaven 17 etc .If you can stick with acoustic The only simularity between both kits is that you hit them

[einarabelc5]

maturenewdrummer, on 11 April 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

Hi Tibbz i have both ekit and acoustic i have to play ekit due to neighbours but given a choice id deffo choose acoustic .Look to the future when time comes to audition for a band majority of groups prefer acoustic kit unless you audition for an 80s electro group like human league heaven 17 etc .If you can stick with acoustic The only simularity between both kits is that you hit them

How do you know that most prefer acoustic?

[maturenewdrummer]

HI there because like Tibzz i live in England i go see a lot of bands and ive never seen an ekit( im talking in clubs etc. not bands like Rush) in any band except an 80s electro band.The only situation you play an ekit live over here is maybe a jam night.England is very big on live bands with acoustic drums not ekits