[DrumPhil]

So I got a pair of Sabian AA 13" hi hats, and the bottom is regular weight and the top is light. I want a more slushy, almost darker sound but don't want to break the bank so I looked at a B8 Pro splash. Is this going to make it better or worse sounding to use the regular AA on top and the B8 Pro on bottom? Should I be thinking of something completely different, like another brand or what? Lol Suggestions anyone?!?! Thanks for your help!

[samcp12]

If you want a darker sound, get 14 or 15 " hats, 13 always seemed to small for me but w/e, and about what you said with mixing the two cymbals, I wouldn't simply because it's probably going to sound bad.

[Poco Askew]

I think a splash is too thin to be a bottom hat.
Also, isn't the biggest B8 Pro splash only 12"?
For a sloshy sound, try tilting the bottom hat a little more and use less pedal pressure.

This post has been edited by Poco Askew: 09 October 2011 - 06:03 AM

[Dan62]

You could try it if you want to spend the money. I made a pair of hats out of two 16" crashes once and it sounded awesome, and I watched a video on youtube of Chad Szeliga who made hats out of a china and a splash and that souded pretty sweet too. You never really know how it'll sound until you try it out. Maybe you could ask an employee if you can try out the cymbal combination in the store before you buy the splash.

[pearlvx96]

Try putting the bottom hat on top, and see if you like the sound

[DrumPhil]

thanks for your responses.

@Poco Askew: they make a B8 pro 13" for 65$ at Amazon
http://www.amazon.co...18130752&sr=1-9

@Dan62: ya iv'e seen the crashes used as hi hats before with Thomas Pridgeon, lol i know I can't afford those, at least any that would sound good! I will make a trip to my guitar center to browse and experiment eventually

@ pearlvx96: I did put the top on the bottom and it didn't really make a difference, I need something heavier than an AA medium to put on the bottom...

[pearlvx96]

DrumPhil, on 09 October 2011 - 04:19 PM, said:

thanks for your responses.

@ pearlvx96: I did put the top on the bottom and it didn't really make a difference, I need something heavier than an AA medium to put on the bottom...

how about the 13" crash? it's still gonna be thin, but since it's a crash it'll be heavier than a splash.
http://www.sabian.co...sh_13_31306.cfm

[DrumPhil]

pearlvx96, on 09 October 2011 - 05:22 PM, said:

how about the 13" crash? it's still gonna be thin, but since it's a crash it'll be heavier than a splash.
http://www.sabian.co...sh_13_31306.cfm

Oh lol thanks bud didn't notice that exists, I'm pretty sure if i put a heavy cymbal on the bottom it'll make a nicer thicker tone, that's what I'm after at least

[pearlvx96]

DrumPhil, on 10 October 2011 - 07:29 PM, said:

Oh lol thanks bud didn't notice that exists, I'm pretty sure if i put a heavy cymbal on the bottom it'll make a nicer thicker tone, that's what I'm after at least

yup, you're exactly right

[rocklady]

Poco Askew, on 09 October 2011 - 04:26 AM, said:

For a sloshy sound, try tilting the bottom hat a little more and use less pedal pressure.

How does one go about tilting the bottom hat?

Sorry for crashing the thread but i'm interested to know how this is achieved!

[Poco Askew]

rocklady, on 11 October 2011 - 02:26 PM, said:

How does one go about tilting the bottom hat?

Sorry for crashing the thread but i'm interested to know how this is achieved!

Your hi hat stand should have a screw under the bottom cymbal. It is used to tilt the cup the lower hat sits on.
You don't want the to cymbals to be parallel when they close. They trap air as they come together which mutes their sound and you don't get the variety of sounds possible with subtle pedal closure and pressure when the bottom hat is tilted a little.

[rocklady]

Thanks for that! Just noticed my old hi-hat stand never had the screw but you have drawn my attention to this now and notice this on my new one. How I missed a springy type screw is beyond me thanks again!