Piano Lesson
Guitar Lesson
  • Welcome
  • Drum Lessons
  • Drum Forums
  • Drummers
  • PRG
  • Live
  • Store
Sign Up
  • Drum Forums
  • > All Drum Forums
  • > General Drumming
Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Snare Buzz

#1 User is offline   Brandonv25 

  • Corporal
  • Posts: 148
  • Joined: September-10
  • Drum Set:Mapex
  • Cymbals:Zildjian
  • Sticks:Vic Firth

Posted 27 September 2011 - 07:21 PM

I just recently got a Mapex Meridian Maple kit and I absolutely love it, but I can't for the life of me stop my snare from buzzing when I hit the 10" tom. Any suggestions? It's driving me mad.
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^

#2 User is offline   Poco Askew 

  • Moderator Classic
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Posts: 18,647
  • Joined: March-08
  • Location:State of Confusion
  • Drum Set:Mapex
  • Cymbals:Zildjian
  • Sticks:Vic Firth

Posted 27 September 2011 - 07:28 PM

Try a forum search of "buzz" and also check out this topic.
. You'll never know if you like it until you pull down your pants and take a slide on the ice.
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^

#3 User is offline   Brandonv25 

  • Corporal
  • Posts: 148
  • Joined: September-10
  • Drum Set:Mapex
  • Cymbals:Zildjian
  • Sticks:Vic Firth

Posted 28 September 2011 - 03:28 AM

Ok so basically from what I read, its just a fact of life lol. Sounds like 10" toms are too close in pitch to snares to do much about it. Not gonna tune my tom or snare way up or down and make them sound like crap just to avoid a bit of buzz
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^

#4 User is offline   Hampys 

  • Apprentice
  • PipPip
  • Posts: 47
  • Joined: August-11
  • Location:Sweden, Helsingborg
  • Drum Set:DDrums
  • Cymbals:Zildjian
  • Sticks:Pro Mark

Posted 28 September 2011 - 05:13 AM

If you have 20 or something strands on your snare, try to reduce them, buy a 12 strand or something, it reduces the buzz. Also you can try muffeling your 10", not much but a little moongel or something like that, you could also muffle your snare if you want to, it helps a little as well.
You might also find that tuning the 10" just slightly may get you way more or way less snare-buzz.

Good luck :>

This post has been edited by Hampys: 29 September 2011 - 12:59 AM

Non-stop-energy-gogo!
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^

#5 User is offline   Dan62 

  • Corporal
  • PipPipPip
  • Posts: 136
  • Joined: March-11
  • Drum Set:Tama
  • Cymbals:Zildjian

Posted 28 September 2011 - 05:34 AM

Well, that happened to me and I just tuned the batter head on my snare up a touch higher and the snare sound stayed pretty much the same but the overtones from hitting the toms were gone. You either have to deal with tuning your snare or just deal with the overtones, but I think different snare wires and/or moongel/drum gum may help.
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^

#6 User is offline   Poco Askew 

  • Moderator Classic
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Posts: 18,647
  • Joined: March-08
  • Location:State of Confusion
  • Drum Set:Mapex
  • Cymbals:Zildjian
  • Sticks:Vic Firth

Posted 28 September 2011 - 05:36 AM

 Brandonv25, on 28 September 2011 - 03:28 AM, said:

Ok so basically from what I read, its just a fact of life lol. Sounds like 10" toms are too close in pitch to snares to do much about it. Not gonna tune my tom or snare way up or down and make them sound like crap just to avoid a bit of buzz


Yes, IMO it is a fact of life. At some point you will probably get snare buzz no matter what you do - especially if you play with other musicians. But you can minimize it w/o tuning any drum "way up or down". Sometimes just a tiny change will make a big difference. Also, if it works for you, Schroeder's tuning method doesn't change the pitch of anything.
. You'll never know if you like it until you pull down your pants and take a slide on the ice.
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^

#7 User is offline   Matt Shank 

  • General
  • Posts: 5,490
  • Joined: December-08
  • Location:In a van, down by the river
  • Drum Set:Dixon
  • Cymbals:Sabian
  • Sticks:Vater

Posted 28 September 2011 - 05:44 AM

 Poco Askew, on 28 September 2011 - 05:36 AM, said:

Yes, IMO it is a fact of life. At some point you will probably get snare buzz no matter what you do - especially if you play with other musicians. But you can minimize it w/o tuning any drum "way up or down". Sometimes just a tiny change will make a big difference. Also, if it works for you, Schroeder's tuning method doesn't change the pitch of anything.


Here is Schroeder's method:
CLICK ME !
Website I Facebook I Twitter I Google+
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^

#8 User is offline   JBoom 

  • Sergeant
  • PipPipPipPip
  • Posts: 201
  • Joined: September-11
  • Location:Vermont
  • Drum Set:Sonor
  • Cymbals:Zildjian
  • Sticks:Pro Mark

Posted 28 September 2011 - 05:48 AM

 Matt Shank, on 28 September 2011 - 05:44 AM, said:

Here is Schroeder's method:
CLICK ME !


That video doesn't work, "removed by the user." Is there another one around?
Music is just a theory, with some gaps.
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^

#9 User is offline   Matt Shank 

  • General
  • Posts: 5,490
  • Joined: December-08
  • Location:In a van, down by the river
  • Drum Set:Dixon
  • Cymbals:Sabian
  • Sticks:Vater

Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:00 AM

 JBoom, on 28 September 2011 - 05:48 AM, said:

That video doesn't work, "removed by the user." Is there another one around?


Oops, didn't see that.
In the video, Schroeder tightens the four lugs around the snare wire. Like this:
Posted Image

Those four lugs will be tighter than the other lugs. By doing that, you're creating a channel (bed) for the snare wires.

This post has been edited by Matt Shank: 28 September 2011 - 06:01 AM

Website I Facebook I Twitter I Google+
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^

#10 User is offline   JBoom 

  • Sergeant
  • PipPipPipPip
  • Posts: 201
  • Joined: September-11
  • Location:Vermont
  • Drum Set:Sonor
  • Cymbals:Zildjian
  • Sticks:Pro Mark

Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:11 AM

 Matt Shank, on 28 September 2011 - 06:00 AM, said:

Oops, didn't see that.
In the video, Schroeder tightens the four lugs around the snare wire. Like this:
Posted Image

Those four lugs will be tighter than the other lugs. By doing that, you're creating a channel (bed) for the snare wires.


Does he say anything about diecast hoops? They are less flexible and having uneven lugs tends to cause way more issues than a normal hoop. (Yes, I have diecast hoops on my snare.)
Music is just a theory, with some gaps.
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^

#11 User is offline   Matt Shank 

  • General
  • Posts: 5,490
  • Joined: December-08
  • Location:In a van, down by the river
  • Drum Set:Dixon
  • Cymbals:Sabian
  • Sticks:Vater

Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:19 AM

 JBoom, on 28 September 2011 - 06:11 AM, said:

Does he say anything about diecast hoops? They are less flexible and having uneven lugs tends to cause way more issues than a normal hoop. (Yes, I have diecast hoops on my snare.)


 Schroeder, on 18 September 2009 - 10:00 AM, said:

Drum hoops always have some flex to them. Triple flange, die cast, even wood hoops will have a little give to them. On the bottom of all my snare drums you can see a U shape in the hoop. It's not super extreme, but you can see it's there. But for all the skeptics, this is something that a lot of top drummers use too. It's not something that I came up with.

Website I Facebook I Twitter I Google+
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^

#12 User is offline   Brandonv25 

  • Corporal
  • Posts: 148
  • Joined: September-10
  • Drum Set:Mapex
  • Cymbals:Zildjian
  • Sticks:Vic Firth

Posted 28 September 2011 - 08:16 AM

ill give that a try when i get home tonight, thanks Matt
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^

#13 User is offline   FourPieceMetal 

  • Lieutenant
  • PipPipPipPip
  • Posts: 673
  • Joined: August-11
  • Drum Set:Pearl
  • Cymbals:Meinl
  • Sticks:Pro Mark

Posted 28 September 2011 - 01:14 PM

The thing is, you're never going to eliminate snare buzz completely, unless you tune your toms a lot higher or a lot lower than your snare drum. You need to make sure that the toms are as far away from the pitch your snare has, while still making sure the toms give off a sound you like.
Favorite Made-Up Quote: You can say something a thousand times, but that doesn't mean it's written in stone.
The Lesson: Don't believe everything you hear from somebody, especially when their conduct disproves it.
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^

#14 User is offline   Poco Askew 

  • Moderator Classic
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Posts: 18,647
  • Joined: March-08
  • Location:State of Confusion
  • Drum Set:Mapex
  • Cymbals:Zildjian
  • Sticks:Vic Firth

Posted 28 September 2011 - 02:10 PM

Play live with a guitar, bass and/or keyboard and you WILL have snare buzz no matter how you tune it and your toms. That reso head is going to resonate to some sound and the wires will rattle. Learn to love it.
. You'll never know if you like it until you pull down your pants and take a slide on the ice.
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^

#15 User is offline   Brandonv25 

  • Corporal
  • Posts: 148
  • Joined: September-10
  • Drum Set:Mapex
  • Cymbals:Zildjian
  • Sticks:Vic Firth

Posted 08 October 2011 - 03:29 AM

Try as I may cant seem to reduce this. I have the snare sounding even better now from playing around with it but now my snare buzzes when I hit all my toms and my bass drum. used to only be my 10" tom
0
  • Back to top of the page up there ^


  • ← Previous Topic
  • General Drumming
  • Next Topic →

Share this topic:




Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Delete Post

Remove From View

The post may still be visible to moderators in this topic

Reason:

Delete From Topic

The post will be removed from this topic completely


Skin and Language

Execution Stats

  • Time Now: May 19 2013 12:42 PM
DrumLessons.com - Copyright © 2011 Railroad Media, Inc. - All Rights Reserved
About  |  Terms Of Use  |  Privacy Policy  |  Free Guitar Lessons  |  Piano Lessons