[realscotch]

kyle102565, on Jan 20 2011, 11:18 PM, said:

i was told a long time ago to never wrestle with a pig, you both get covered in crap, the only difference is the pig likes it. play some blues.

Now that is a great philosophical statement. I have to put that on my list of things not to do.

As for blues, great music, just not my choice to play for a whole night.

[Ryan1001]

Double pedals because I'm cheap and don't have enough space . Two bass drums are good for aesthetics and if you want two different kinds of sounds for your kick too though.

If you have to pick and have lots of money and space you should go with two bass drums

[abacacus]

realscotch, on Jan 20 2011, 04:15 PM, said:

That is never going to happen, it's not my style and (sorry) but I really don't like the music.

If I do anything in my old age, it will be jazz, which is what I always preferred. R&R was for the money, jazz was for the love of it.

I can easily see that, the reason I'd like to see it (even if it wont happen) is the same reason I'd like to see your average death metal drummer play jazz. It's harder then it seems. Either genre looks easily from the others stand point, until you try to play it.

[The Rev Jr]

Ryan1001, on Jan 20 2011, 10:40 PM, said:

Double pedals because I'm cheap and don't have enough space . Two bass drums are good for aesthetics and if you want two different kinds of sounds for your kick too though.

If you have to pick and have lots of money and space you should go with two bass drums

If you tune them to each other they will sound the same. Just because you have two kicks doesn't mean you'll get two different sounds. If you want two different sounds/pitches then get a bigger or smaller bass drum realitive to your main. IF you have two the same size then you generally want to tune them to each other so they don't have the boom-ba-boom-ba sound you get from a double pedal. That's why I switched to a double bass kit. Nothing I did could fix the high-low sound I got with a double pedal. Nothing! It got so annoying. The only time you couldn't tell a difference in the strokes is when you play fast. Slower you could tell the difference.

[abacacus]

The same thing will happen in a lot of double bass kits. Same size and same wood, still not the same drum. There WILL be a difference in sound between two drums, even if they are the exact same size and wood unless you trigger or run it eq'd through a PA.

[The Rev Jr]

abacacus, on Jan 22 2011, 06:41 PM, said:

The same thing will happen in a lot of double bass kits. Same size and same wood, still not the same drum. There WILL be a difference in sound between two drums, even if they are the exact same size and wood unless you trigger or run it eq'd through a PA.

Niether of mine are triggered or mic'd, and I got mine to sound the same. lol

[abacacus]

Video? I never seen anyone do that before, or even heard anyone say they've done it before.

[fnovus]

Double bass pedal = easier to do singles
Two bass drums = easier to do broken patterns

At the moment if I wanted to get back into double bass drumming I'd get a double bass pedal. If I ever had two bass drums I'd have them tuned differently for the sake of diversity.

[The Rev Jr]

abacacus, on Jan 22 2011, 07:46 PM, said:

Video? I never seen anyone do that before, or even heard anyone say they've done it before.

Here's a link to one of my videos where I'm playing. If you need me to upload another to where you can here them better, just let me know, and I will!

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=E_qM4l0XlhA

This post has been edited by The Rev Jr: 22 January 2011 - 10:39 PM

[abacacus]

Your left one sounds a bit higher pitched

Also, part of it isn't just the drum... it's your foot. Different feet will also sound different. I like Derek Roddy's example of this, his left foot always ends up sounding better then his right... no matter which drum he puts there.

This post has been edited by abacacus: 22 January 2011 - 11:41 PM

[The Rev Jr]

abacacus, on Jan 23 2011, 01:38 AM, said:

Your left one sounds a bit higher pitched

Also, part of it isn't just the drum... it's your foot. Different feet will also sound different. I like Derek Roddy's example of this, his left foot always ends up sounding better then his right... no matter which drum he puts there.

That may be so being of the camera was more to my left than in the middle. In person, you really wouldn't be able to tell which bass I hit unless you saw me move my leg lol

[abacacus]

Have you ever heard someone else play your kit from ten feet away?

[Prog70]

I want to move the subject by asking : Are 2X Bass Kit best suited for Racking system ?

I use a 3 sided rack on my single kick setup and I'm starting to wonders if another Bass Drum
would justified a 4th rack segment, that way a corner will be formed in front of the snare for
better tom setting options and the other segment would go on the left for better cymbal/snare/percs
setting options. This would create a perfect 4 segment rack Vs a 3 piece with weird angles.

Just throwing that one out.

[The Rev Jr]

abacacus, on Jan 23 2011, 08:31 PM, said:

Have you ever heard someone else play your kit from ten feet away?

Yes, and they sound fine.

[ES108]

Curious: at the beginning of this thread, speeds were given, like 160 and 260 BPM. Now what's the standard when talking about speed? Is it in quarter notes, eighth notes? Because this makes a significant difference

[fnovus]

ES108, on 11 February 2011 - 09:38 AM, said:

Curious: at the beginning of this thread, speeds were given, like 160 and 260 BPM. Now what's the standard when talking about speed? Is it in quarter notes, eighth notes? Because this makes a significant difference

Sixteenth notes

[Sean Lang]

Ignoring the epic battle of wits in this thread,
I prefer double kick for feel, and double pedal for convenience.
I prefer to use triggers as a way of monitoring my kicks, as I've had my fair share of less than helpful soundmen.
I also like giving the soundmen the option of using the trigger signal, as some of them don't really understand how to mix a drumset for live metal.

[ES108]

fnovus, on 11 February 2011 - 10:01 AM, said:

Sixteenth notes

Thanks ...and on that note, maybe I'll just give up any hopes of metal drumming now. I was hoping the answer might be eighth.

[fnovus]

ES108, on 11 February 2011 - 12:37 PM, said:

Thanks ...and on that note, maybe I'll just give up any hopes of metal drumming now. I was hoping the answer might be eighth.

Everything in drummings takes dedication.
If it's what you want to do, you'll be able to do it given enough time. Just keep at it.

[abacacus]

Just takes practice. Lots, and lots, of practice.